Ep. No. 24: The 17th Secret or “A Question and Some Answers”

“I have a question for you. Apologies, it’s a bit of a long one, but I think I’m going to need to unpack it a bit.

Okay. So you love Mark Fisher’s The Weird and the Eerie. I want to talk a little bit more about the Eerie, because you so often talk about the Weird. Here is a nutshell quote from Fisher ‘the Eerie is constituted by a failure of absence or by a failure of presence. There is something where there should be nothing or there is nothing where there should be something’. Now season 3 is riven with eerie absences. First and foremost, or at least the most obvious being Dale Cooper and Laura Palmer’s absenteeism. There are more fundamental absences: absences of story progression and structure, absences of narrative and temporal cohesion. Absences of place. We spend very little time in Twin Peaks as a location, and next to no time in a Twin Peaks that is recognizable to us as fans of the original show.

By venerating Laura, part 8 highlights and helps to foster a yearning for something that is fundamentally lacking. Even the music that underscores the scene in the fireman’s Palace reinforces this View. This lack can also be found in the way the season continuously defers, confounds and obscures its meanings, a quality which finds focus in elements that imply a hidden order, such as the recurrent instances of mysterious, seemingly metaphysically significant numbers.

All this absence generates a feeling that there’s a radical outside to this tale. A place where these structuring elements reside just behind a curtain that the fans attempt to glimpse behind through theories and readings. Perhaps if we are to talk about encounters with the weird in season 3, an incursion of something beyond the edges of the known, we need to talk about the way this vast sense of eerie absence bears down on the story and the characters. On us.

Naturally I have ideas about what this absence is. What this outside is. But this isn’t my podcast.

So what do you make of it?”

–Adam from Diane podcast. You can tweet at him (and the other Dianes) at: @DianePodcast and you should, because they are smarter than us.

 

The Struggle is Real:

Ep. No. 23: The 16th Secret: Rob King and the Questions Ten

This week, Rob King of 25 Years Later joins us in a non-synchronous, phase-shifted, pan-dimensional interview. Not to worry, we’ll still throw more tangents per minute than any other podcast of this type!

(what type are we again?)

Apology: Diane, you are academics of several wonderful types not merely “of a type” please forgive the slip of my frazzled tongue.  –Agent “K”

Here are the promised Show Notes (danger, danger, massive linkspam incoming!)

Podcasts that Inspired Us:

Diane: Entering the town of Twin Peaks
Twin Peaks Unwrapped
Sparkwood and 21  a Twin Peaks podcast by No Ship Network

Karl’s podcasts:

  • WYRD_SIGNAL:
    A Podcast from out of broken time. Invoking the ghosts of lost futures through cult film, fringe ideas and strange sounds.
  • The Shadow Trap:Catching fiction’s worst monsters with strategically limited information to go on – a podcast by @NotNowRosie & @bobsymindless
  • The Last Podcast on the Left:
    Last Podcast on the Left barrels headlong into all things horror — as hosts Ben Kissel, Marcus Parks and Henry Zebrowski cover dark subjects spanning Jeffrey Dahmer, werewolves, Jonestown, iconic hauntings, the history of war crimes, and more. Whether it’s cults, killers, or cryptid encounters, Last Podcast on the Left laughs into the abyss that is the dark side of humanity.
  • Hidden Experience:
    “And now they’ve come to take me  /  Come to break me  / And yet it isn’t unexpected  / I have been waiting for these visitors /  Help me”
  • The Witch Wave:
    The Witch Wave is a podcast for bewitching conversation about magic, creativity, and culture. On each episode, host Pam Grossman speaks with a leading visionary about art and Craft.
  • The Unexplained (With Howard Hughes)
  • Unexplained (with Richard Maclean Smith)
    “Unexplained is a bi-weekly podcast about strange and mysterious real life events that continue to evade explanation.”
    “A show that explores the space between what we think of as real and what is not. Where the unknown and paranormal meets the most radical ideas in science today…”
  • Malcolm Gladwell’s Revisionist History
  • The Podcaster’s Guide to the Conspiracy:
    A humorous and informative analysis of current conspiracy theories and conspiracy theory theories by Josh Addison and Matthew R. X. Dentith.
  • The Gralien Report With Micah Hanks
  • Astonishing Legends:
    Scott & Forrest have been called the ‘Click and Clack of esoterica’ by their listeners. Their mission is to take a look at legendary strange and unusual events from throughout history and interview people who’ve had close encounters with the unexplained. They strive to bring you everything that’s entertaining about those stories and remind you that it’s ok to laugh at scary stories and respectfully, even the people that tell them.

Jubel’s Books:

Jirel of Joiry: The Mother of Us All via Black Gate magazine

Jules De Grandin

 

Ep. No. 22: The 15th Secret: “Season Two, Episode One”

We’re back! Back in the Twin Peaks zone…

Some Notes on the 15th Secret of Counter Esperanto:

How is Red like a courtly fool?

Why is China back in the Twin Peaks Narrative?

Will we say something about infiltration? Will it reference Mark Fisher’s The Weird and the Eerie?

Will we find a white paper on technology in Twin Peaks?

Would we be satisfied with a user’s manual for a Spiricomm and Agent Jefferies’ teahouse handle?

A 27 hour meditation on the nature of reality, carried on during the ultimate road trip.

Many questions, few answers.  Just the way we like it, once one learns how to see the Fnords.

We also encourage you to check out the following:

ALL THIS AND 50% MORE TANGENTS BY THIS VOLUME!

Ep. No. 21 — The Seventh Song: “Horror at Harold House”

Here’s something a little different…

It used to be that the dark of the year was the time to tell each other ghost stories, and so this particular song would not be out of place with it’s six fellows. Yet, it is very different indeed, for those other stories were all–or claimed to be–fiction.

This one is real.

Today, Jubel offers Counter Esperanto the true story of certain spectral happenings at “The Harold House.” A true story that happened to him. A strange odyssey into the impossible, complete with Swords, Spirits and the Secret of 4:17 AM.

Ep. No. 20 — The 14th Secret: Folklore of (and in) Twin Peaks

The holidays are holiday-rific as they say, and their multi-spectral horror and insane blandishments have had certain “insalubrious” effects upon your humble hosts.  Rallying against this tinseled terror, we present for your hopeful approval, the initial results, interpretations, commentary and tangential matters arising from Jubel’s academic study of folklore.

We asked for your help to fill out our understanding of how Peaks viewers understood and processed modern folklore, and your support and responses just blew us away.  Over a hundred of you took the time out of your day to answer a survey to a level of completeness and deep thought that I have never before witnessed–and as a former pollster, I’ve witnessed more than I can say.

Both Jubel and myself pondered how to best process your exquisite thoughts, but in the end the load was too heavy for just the two of us. We’ve therefore asked a few members of the Twin Peaks community to be surprise guests on today’s show, and they have very generously agreed.  For this reason, Michael Wilson and Caemeron Crain of the Drink Full and Descend podcast, and Eileen G. Mykkels of the 25 Years Later site deserve some seriously good slices of cake, they are fabulous human beings and incredibly knowledgeable scholars.

Thank you again for lending us your expertise and insight!